Here's a theory I have on the McCanns and Madeleines disappearance .... warning VERY long .......?

WARNING: THIS IS VERY LONG ....





This theory works off the basis that reports of a cadaver dog detecting a corpse is untrue. At the moment we don't have any confirmed reports about a corpse having been detected, so this is just a theory on the basis that it is untrue.





What if Gerry and Kate weren't involved at all, but it was one or more of the friends.





Which of the friends had an opportunity though? Reasonably it could only be down to Jane Tanner, her partner Russell O'Brien and Matthew Oldfield. They had left the table between the check at 9:05 by Gerry and the check at 10:00 by Kate.





Remember all 3 of these people KNEW that the patio door was open. They also all know the children. That means they knew if the child woke up while they picked them up the child was unlikely to scream since it was a familiar face to Madeleine. If they were 'spotted' inside the apartment, it wouldn't be suspicious at all since they were just 'checking' on the children.

Here's a theory I have on the McCanns and Madeleines disappearance .... warning VERY long .......?
I'll be SO glad when this matter is settled. I've lost interest and I think most other people have too. It's totally boring now ! ! !
Reply:Another theory that could be very possible. How well do we really know ALL of our friends. How well do we know our own family members for that matter. How do they know when of their male friends was not a pedophile and something went wrong or they were mixed up in some pedo ring. People can be as naive as they want if they believe it is never possible. I had a Great Uncle who was a priest who lets just say enjoyed boys far to much. I would say it was not until he had already been dead 15 or 20 yeras before we found out what he had done to all of my brothers along with dozens of other boys. We were shocked. Beyond shocked so who knows what kind of weirdness 1 or more of the McCanns friends had in their life. Didnt one of these friends have some sort of relationship with Murat also?





About what Nimrod said...maybe he is right..but what kind of parent leaves their sick child alone while they go out. I would not even leave my teenager home alone sick. They should be brought up on charges by social services as well.
Reply:Well, that's it then good enough for me dave, pass the rope, find a lamp post, no need for owt more...





(lets see if irony works)
Reply:oh yes, that is very interesting Dave S, very interesting indeed......YAWN
Reply:Some very valid and interesting points there. Its sad, but I dont know if we will ever truly know the facts and why they McCanns and their friends have lied so much. I cant believe the Police have not seen through their inconsistencies and questioned them more. I just hope that poor Madeleine is found safe and well soon. Afterall, she is truly the only totally innocent party in all of this and is definately the only one who is hurting / has been hurt through no fault of her own.
Reply:If you are going to be so concerned for Maddie, what are your plans for the thousands of dark-skinned kids who die of easily-avoided causes every damn day?
Reply:You ask what we think (and therefore in spite of a comment or two to the contrary it IS a question). I think that you have put an enormous amount of thought and research into this and mentioned some details I was unaware of. Your conjectures could be wide of the mark but even among the professionals in investigations they often follow many lines of conjecture. I do not see people criticizing police if they say they are "following several lines of enquiry", so I don't really see why you should be criticized on that score.





Some one says you are psychotic. I see nothing "psychotic" in what you write and with my extensive studies in psychology and psychopathology I think I have some right to give such an opinion... My only concern is that you are spending a huge amount of mental effort on this, which can be very draining...I hope you take a break every now and then from what is a very taxing process for any person.





I must disagree with some other comments that suggest (or insist) that you should not state your opinions: I feel that it is far from counter-productive for people like yourself to voice your opinions on this. Like I said a short while ago in answer to another person's question, cases such as this highlight the need for better legal child-protection mechanisms in Europe, and whatever it takes to keep this matter -- and others like it -- in the public eye and maybe help to protect other children in future, it's worth it.





I found a recent report from the Telegraph...It confirms that Portuguese police state that a "cadaver dog" detected traces of a body in that room... It also states that the police have confirmed that the McCanns are not suspects... It does not say, however, who else (besides R.M.) the police might be officially considering as suspects.





Oh, here's the link....





http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jht...





I find that very interesting...and I thank you for your statements. My mind is still open and my one hope is that -- in spite of specialized British sniffer dogs (brought in nearly 100 days after she went missing), Madeleine may still be found -- and hopefully alive.





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Reply:Very interesting theory. I have to laugh when people defend the McCann's by saying there's no evidence that they were involved, there's no evidence, (thus far) that suggests they WEREN'T involved either though, is there?





Just an extra note though, wasn't it Jane Tanner who "remembered" (around the 85 day mark) that she had seen Murat looking in the apartment windows? She recognised his lazy eye.........from behind, if I recall correctly.





I don't see why Team McCann are so het up about the McCann's and their friends being looked at with suspicion. EVERYONE who came in contact with Madeleine should be under suspicion, as far as I'm concerned, otherwise the investigation is flawed. You cannot rule out friends and family simply because they're "grieving", especially as, statistically speaking, friends and family are more often the perpetrators in cases like this. I wouldn't care less, to be honest, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear, right?





Poor little Madeleine.
Reply:As i have stated before in answer to other questions on this subject, this subject has been worked to extinction, it is in danger of turning on itself, please just let the entire subject drop. Nothing can change what has happened and harping on it will just have a very negative effect eventually.
Reply:Yes - an interesting read.
Reply:Thought of joining the SPanish police? They are so in the dark they don't know where the light switch is.
Reply:Ooo err ! That is a very plausible theory. I wonder if the police have bothered to delve that far....
Reply:Well done for at least putting things into some sort of time frame.





The inspector leading the investigation has again reiterated that the McCanns aren't suspects.





The money argument. Did the McCanns have debt problems? Nothing anyone has mentioned. Could they know an appeal would work? Of course not, there has never been anything similar and it was likely to falter anyway. There are lots of missing children and unlike this case many of those people hadn't left their kids unattended, so there was no reason to think they would get special public sympathy, in fact they were likely to get less.





I never though the McCanns had any role to play here. Even if they had been able to hold their emotions in check, and a journalist said he looked into Kate McCanns face and saw so much pain shortly after she went missing, they would have been in a very agitated state because they were shortly going to say she was missing. Hardly the point at which you would choose to invite the quiz instructor to the table is it? Why, so that she can independently (not part of the group) observe your demeanour?





People are right, much is strange about this case, but at the top for me is that people think they could have had anything to do with it . How could they sit in the Tapas bar and no one even off the record talk to the Portugese press who have suggested their involvement and not comment on the strange behaviour of the McCanns.
Reply:There are way too many discrepancies in the whole sad event. I now hear they fear Little Maddie may have been dumped at sea, sadly a thought I had within days. My fear is now the beasts that done this will never be caught.
Reply:Your theory doesn't carry any water. What is the motive?





You may or may not be familiar with the story of "The Fugitive". It was a piece of fiction which was more famously a long-running television series, later made into a movie.





The story line goes like this:





A man's wife is brutally murdered. He is the prime suspect. He is arrested and convicted of the crime, but escapes from prison and goes on the run.





In the book and TV series, he moves from town to town, changing names, moving on when he fears his identity might be revealed. But in the movie, he relies on the help of his friends to prove his innocence.





The concept is intriguing. A crime occurs and a friend or family member is accused or likely to be accused. You know this person well. You can't imagine for a minute that he is guilty. He protests his innocence often and convincingly. You believe it.





There is no concrete evidence either way. All you have to rely on is your own knowledge of the person's character. And you think you're a good judge of character. So what do you do? You say to yourself and to others: "He didn't do it. I JUST KNOW". When in fact, you don't know squat except your own feelings.





I don't think the friends are involved.
Reply:Well this sounds quite plausible. At least you are having a stab at a theory which is more than the ploice seem to be doing at the moment. What I can't understand is that it was the UK police who brought in the cadaver dog and supposedly found traces of a body in the apartment. Surely if this is true them the UK police would not let it pass without a follow up.I thought these dogs were extremely reliable. Maybe they are waiting for the blood test results later this week then will link the two together?
Reply:Are you suggesting Jane and Gerry were having a bit off an extra marital?





If they were they ought to come clean - its a child missing and their lies and cover ups are not helping the police with the investigation.
Reply:then again, maybe Jane and Russell were just missing for long periods of the evening due to the fact their child was sick, and while we all agree that they should have been with her ALL the time, perhaps you're just reading too much into their long periods of time away from the others?
Reply:yes dave a very interesting theory but why??? an with what media coverage i have read its pains me to think that maybe the mccanns and co. did indeed take a vow of silence as to what happened that night but until the police have concrete evidence we have to presume that the little mite was in fact abducted by a stranger no doubt there are conflicting statements made by tanner and co. but surely the police have already picked up on that..i do hope they find maddie alive...
Reply:As I have said many times before you have an unhealthy fixation which has become a psychosis with you and mark my words you will become more and more Psychotic if you do not take a step back from all of this.





I would suggest a trip to the doctors young man.
Reply:very intresting theory dave , i guess we will just have to wait and see .
Reply:I read it in full. Now I want to know what the lies are all about among the McCann parents and their friends. Why didn't someone tell the truth at the start??? The outcome might has been better. This is just totally bizarre. How can they do that to an innocent child. I hope the truth comes out shortly.
Reply:Will somebody, just hurry up and find the Kid.
Reply:there are loads of theorys to her dissaperance, i think that Gerry and there friends were involved in it for money, if it was a complete stranger they would of found her, but if it was the friends or the parents they could of planned it out of how to do it without anyone seeing her, some of it just does not make sence so thats why i think this, they have to look deeply into the theory that her parents or friends were strongly involved, and i support look for madeleine appeal, but thats my honneist, and i just hope they find her
Reply:At least you gave the warning it was very long - that it was!
Reply:I think you have too much time on your hands. You should see if Hollywood is interested in thIS "made for tv movie"
Reply:Dave,





Your theory is long. I’ll be pithy.


The police always look for motives early in such cases. For example, the first thing the police did was to confirm that Gerry is actually Madeleine’s father!





The police probably found no motives otherwise the friends would have been suspects by now.
Reply:Best theory I have read so far.





All the pro-McCanns need to look at the statistics in relation to this, it is very unlikely in adduction cases that a child is abducted by a complete stranger. Much more likely that family/close friends are involved in some way.





Add to the mix the inconsistencies between stories, strange behaviour of the McCanns before and after the alleged abduction etc.....





Dave S - in support of your theory, I read somewhere that the trail of madeleine went cold outside of the apartment complex. The portuguese police said the evidence pointed towards the child having been moved from one room to another on that night. From the McCann room to the Tanner room perhaps?
Reply:So anyway this isnt really a question and it also i believe has nothing to do with you so get over it k.
Reply:I think your "theory" is very weak and really all you are basing it on is the fact there are some (very minor) discrepancies in Jane's story and that Russell was away from the group for a period of time. I think its just another inane, nonsense theory to be honest caused by reading too much into minor details of the case. All you have to go on is the information in the press and surely you don't believe half of what is published about this case when the Portuguese police have been very discreet all the way through this case. Why don't you leave the detective work to the professionals Dave and focus your energy on something more productive?
Reply:My theory about you is thus: I believe you are an example of the downside of Care in the Community, whilst I am all for a degree of freedom of speech, I have to take exception when nonsensical but non the less harmful drivel of the type you spout on and on and on about appears in a place where decent human beings may happen upon it. You have an extraordinarily warped and twisted mind and it concerns me that you may be free to roam the streets and integrate with society at large